Curse

Fluffy Kittens · Aug 24, 2010, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Interrupt mind wrack and esurge if it's problem... the biggest strenght of balance is ranger and mes which can completely shutdown any of 2 enemy chars... I'm not saying it's easy but you have a chance to win even tho it's hard because OPness of wota sins which are the main problem.

Otello · Aug 24, 2010, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by Coast

thought this was about wota+e surge and not about bashing eachother

It is the same topic.

diabiosx · Aug 27, 2010, 04:43 AM // 04:43

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

I hope you realize conjure is armor ignoring elemental damage. I also hope you realize majority of sin damage comes from +damage attacks, which is also armor ignoring.

Using +Armor vs WoTA sins is about as effective as using healing breeze to try and counter your party getting nuked on the center.

You still have much to learn about HA (And Guild Wars)

Go to great temple, roll a WoTA sin and see how much damage is prevented with the +armor dummies.

(60AL to 80AL)just on base damage of daggers alone you prevent 10 max damage with +9Al str shield +10lightning shield. LOL!!! so wearing your shield you prevent 10damage on every critical attack LOL!! LOL!!! im sorry i cant stop laughing LOL!! LOL!!! LOL!!!

+armor helps dude, basics of GW
You still have much to learn about HA (And Guild Wars) my nooblet

i think thats why every1 flames you in this forum.

Killed u man · Aug 27, 2010, 11:54 AM // 11:54

That's 20 armor difference. A shield would give you +18 (as opposed to +19 as you claim), as unspecced shields give you +8 armor...

And wearing a +10 lightning shield means you won't have armor against the fire eles (a basic 8 extra armor), so shields won't affect all their damage, but only a minor part of a minor part. (as the majority is armor ignoring).

You're claiming that less than half the damage of less than half the damage outweighs the effects of a 40/40 set. I claim they don't. I can't be asked to come up with exact numbers (mainly because I know I'm right), so noone is right or wrong at the moment.

everyone flaming me cuz I have alot to learn about GW: pot calling the kettle black, eh?

diabiosx · Aug 27, 2010, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

That's 20 armor difference. A shield would give you +18 (as opposed to +19 as you claim), as unspecced shields give you +8 armor...

And wearing a +10 lightning shield means you won't have armor against the fire eles (a basic 8 extra armor), so shields won't affect all their damage, but only a minor part of a minor part. (as the majority is armor ignoring).

You're claiming that less than half the damage of less than half the damage outweighs the effects of a 40/40 set. I claim they don't. I can't be asked to come up with exact numbers (mainly because I know I'm right), so noone is right or wrong at the moment.

everyone flaming me cuz I have alot to learn about GW: pot calling the kettle black, eh?

Thanks for proving my point that you know nothing about this game :-)
just out of curiosity, do you wear full surviver insignia on your monk?? LAWL LAWL LAWL

Killed u man · Aug 27, 2010, 02:30 PM // 14:30

If you're talking about AL+9 Str shield, I've known about that about as long as I've played HA. However, I never seen any proof for it that is real, rather than just an urban, Guild Wars, myth.

Insignias I run depend on the meta. If the meta is rspike, hexway or bbsway, I run HP insigias for the obvious reason you're better off with +HP. If the meta is balanced, IWAY or any other build with large chunks of armor affected damage, I run blessed/wanderer's insignias.

fowlero · Aug 27, 2010, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Without spec it's still the case that str shield is +9 as opposed to +8.

http://i33.tinypic.com/287qh4y.jpg - Tactics orb does 104

http://i35.tinypic.com/23rsikh.jpg - Strength orb does 102

But occasionally those few hp saved help so meh.

gooeydark · Aug 27, 2010, 06:15 PM // 18:15

You guys are wasting time trying to argue with this idiot. I bet if even [rawr] stepped into this thread and gave him the armor lecture, he would call them bad and that they don't know what they're talking about.

Point of the last couple of pages: There's damage to be mitigated by use of proper shield sets and the right inscription in any build (when I say ANY build I mean hexway and BBsway and the other crap builds you mention), which in turn reduces a lot of pressure output on your team.

Anything this "Borat"/"Killed u man" person says: Wrong.

*lemming* · Aug 27, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32

I think that's a good note to close this thread on.